I was going to take today as an "off day" to try to take care of some family business.... But I do have some down time right now, and I recently received an email from someone asking for my "two cents worth" on the recent crash of that Ukrainian Airlines Boeing 737 near Tehran, Iran that killed some 176 passengers including, and very sadly, some 63 Canadians..... It was indeed a disaster, and it has raised a lot of questions as to whether or not it was an intentional "shoot down" or whether or not the aircraft suffered some serious mechanical failure... I figured I would answer that email and give my honest opinion here as to what really happened...First, it must be noted that earlier today, the criminals in the Canadian government had the audacity to claim that the aircraft was "deliberately shot down", which leads to the question as to the WHO and the WHY..... .Much of the Jew spew media in both here in Canada and the US as well are suddenly trying to point the finger of blame at Iran (of course..) with the usual false rhetoric that Iran "purposely shot down the aircraft".... But all that anyone has to do is to use COMMON SENSE here and logically ask themselves as to WHY the Iranians would have shot down this aircraft? And especially right in Iran itself? And what would the Iranians gain from shooting down this aircraft at all??.....Honestly, I had looked over a lot of evidence that states that this was a "shoot down", and I want to present some interesting "evidence" that actually comes from Jim Stone's website, at www.jimstone.is, for Jim is claiming that the aircraft was indeed shot down and that it was done by a "stealth" (!) aircraft... Here is Jim's analysis here:TOP POSTED: Ukranian plane definitely shot downIt was not mechanical failure and it was not a bomb on board. This picture proves it and there are many others that show the same thing, holes like this were all over the aircraft which means it was either shot to pieces or nailed by a missile:
Pictures this clear have been censored. I did not want to put this one up but they all got wiped and this is the only clear one left:
The puncture holes on this section of wing prove either a missile or gunfire took this plane down. THE OPPOSITE WING HAS THE SAME TYPE OF HOLES IN A PRESS TV PHOTO ALSO. That proves there's no way an engine failure did this, you can't have holes in both wings plus the fuselage from an engine failure, that's designed to not throw shrapnel at all. TWA 800, a known missile shoot down, had the same type of holes in it. No failure on the plane, even a modern day engine explosion, will do this. No matter what the story is, this plane was shot down. CASE CLOSED. updates below.There are two possibilities with this shoot down: Iran made a mistake, or a stealth aircraft took it out, and Iran can't yet mentally cope with the idea of having an American stealth aircraft operate right over one of their airports without a peep from their radar.
TOTALLY UNCONFIRMED RUMOR:
Rumor has it that there were several Burisma execs on the Ukranian plane that were in Tehran for an energy conference, and the plane was shot down (probably by Israel) under the disguise of tensions between the U.S. and Iran. If there really were Burisma execs on that plane as rumor has it, I'd say Hillary, Biden and Obama & co had it shot down, likely by Israeli sleeper cells. They all sleep in the same New World Order bed.This is only rumor, but it is at least something to put out there. One thing is certain, the plane was definitely, without question, shot down. It burned all the way to the ground and it was clearly captured on video.OK, I will state it clearly that I am NOT going to side with Jim Stone on this one... First and foremost, we have Jim stating that it was done by a "stealth" aircraft which is utter bullshit... I have shown in so many articles already that "stealth" itself is a scam and total bullshit... Therefore if this was an attack by an "enemy aircraft" aka the US or Israel, that is an impossibility for it would have been easily detected well before it entered Iranian air space since any radar with variable wavelength abilities would see any "stealth" aircraft easily! I therefore dismiss this entire notion..However, we have the other factors that are overlooked... Just looking at the images that Jim Stone presents that show "shrapnel" does not mean they are "bullet holes"...Usually "bullet holes" are uniform and mostly round but we see none of that with the damage shown... However, there is the fact that the ENGINES that were used on this particular Boeing model had a tendency to fail and it is possible that the main turbine on one of the engines may have ruptured and sent flying debris from that rupture directly into the plane's fuselage.... I am in fact leaning on this as the actual cause of this crash...And in fact, there are a few in the alternative media that are also looking at this crash as "structural failure" due to a serious engine malfunction.... And one of them is of course Moon of Alabama, at www.moonofalabama.org, and I want to present their report on this crash right here for everyone to see for themselves... I have further thoughts and comments to follow:January 09, 2020
Pentagon Accuses Iran Of Shooting Down A Ukrainian Plane But Its Evidence Is Flimsy
The Pentagon is accusing Iran's air defense of shooting down the Ukraninan plane that crashed yesterday near Tehran. The Pentagon says that it was an accidental incident. But the evidence on which the claim is based is flimsy.We reported yesterday on flight PS752:
Hours after Iran had launched the missiles a Ukrainian airliner crashed three minutes after it had taken off from Tehran airport. All 176 people on board died. The passengers were mostly from Iran, Canada and the Ukraine. The airplane was a three years old Boeing 737-800 NG operated by Ukrainian International Airlines, the country's flag carrier. Video shows the burning airliner coming down on a glide path. Photos from the crash site show shrapnel like impacts on the fuselage. The evidence is consistent with an uncontained turbine disc rupture but other potential causes can not be ruled out. The incident will be investigated like all other airliner crashes.
In the update we added:
Higher quality daylight pictures of the crashed Ukrainian plane show that at least some of the "shrapnel impact holes" are not holes at all but are debris or dirt lying on top of the aircraft pieces. Additional pictures also show no evidence of an externally induced event.The Flight Data Recorders of the airplane were found. Iran will download the data from them or, if it does not have that capability, will ask some other country (France?, Germany?) to do so. A preliminary accident report will be published after one month.
Newsweek now reports:
The Ukrainian flight that crashed just outside the Iranian capital of Tehran was struck by an anti-aircraft missile system, a Pentagon official, a senior U.S. intelligence official and an Iraqi intelligence official told Newsweek....The aircraft is believed to have been struck by a Russia-built Tor-M1 surface-to-air missile system, known to NATO as Gauntlet, the three officials told Newsweek.Two Pentagon officials assess that the incident was accidental. Iran's anti-aircraft were likely active following the country's missile attack, which came in response to the U.S. killing last week of Revolutionary Guard Quds Force commander Major General Qassem Soleimani, sources said.
How would an Iraqi intelligence official, likely controlled by the CIA, know what happened in Tehran? The evidence the reporter notes is not very convincing:
Images began to circulate Wednesday of what appeared to be fragments of a Tor M-1 missile said to have been found in a suburb southwest of Tehran. Ukraine Security Council Secretary Oleksiy Danylov said Thursday in a statement that contact with a Tor M-1 system was among the potential causes for the plane's destruction that his country was looking into.Other potential scenarios involved a collision with an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) or another flying object, technical malfunction and a terrorist attack.
These are the two images in question:bigger - biggerThe left picture was posted yesterday at 17:50 UTC on Twitter by the Farsi and English tweeting account "Azematt".biggerThe second picture was posted by another Farsi and English tweeting account name "Liberalist_30" at 10:15 UTC today.Both pictures show the navigation and steering head section of a 9k331 missile used in the Russian Tor M-1 anti-air system. (The warhead is behind the head section and explodes towards the sides of the missile. This leaves the head section intact.)The Independent had already reported on the images and noted the problems with them:
Over the last day, at least two images of what appeared to be missile debris from Russian-made Tor missiles have appeared on social media. The photographs had not previously been uploaded to the internet before yesterday, but attempts to geolocate to the crash site have so far been unsuccessful. They may be unconnected....Elliot Higgins, the founder of Bellingcat, the digital investigation group famous for their investigation into the downing of MH17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014, confirmed that the photograph of Tor missile debris were new images as far as the internet was concerned. But writing on Twitter, he suggested independent verification may prove elusive.“There’s other examples of this type of debris documented in other conflicts, so there’s no way to know this is in Iran,” he said.
Even a blind chicken might find a corn. For once Higgens is right. There are certainly other pictures of used Tor missile heads available.biggerThere are also many Farsi/English Twitter accounts that are operated by the anti-Iranian MEK cult known for its cooperation with U.S. intelligence services. Whoever provided the pictures might have done so to falsely accuse Iran.The Tor-M-1 (video) is a highly-mobile Russian-made system used for medium altitude anti-aircraft tasks. In 2007 Iran bought 29 Tor M-1 units from Russia. The Iranian Tor are operated by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corp (IRGC).biggerIt is likely that there are Tor systems around Tehran and it is certain that they were on high alert in the hours after Iran had launched missiles towards U.S. bases in Iraq.But there were several flights out of Tehran in the early hours of January 8. The departure of flight PS752 was delayed. It took off at 6:12 local time. The airplane climbed out of Tehran airport in a rather straight line. The teams that man the Tor systems around Tehran must be used to the regular radar track of civil planes coming out of Tehran airport. That makes an accidental launch somewhat unlikely.As the Independent also noted:
Early theories about the cause of the crash focussed on engine failure. On Wednesday evening, a Reuters report, citing five intelligence officers, said the western intelligence community was minded to believe technical malfunction was the most likely reason. Ukraine’s embassy in Iran initially sided this way, ruling out the possibility of a missile attack, before hastily removing the statement.
The Ukrainian plane had CFM 56 engines. These have in past years experienced uncontained failures. In April 2018 BBC reported:
A female passenger died after she was nearly sucked from the cabin of a Southwest Airlines flight travelling from New York to Dallas on Tuesday....An initial investigation found evidence of metal fatigue where a fan blade had broken off, according to the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).A similar incident was recorded in 2016 involving a Southwest flight that landed safely in Florida.
Uncontained engine failures can damage the tanks of an airplane and can set it on fire. They can also lead to all kinds of other damage. Any plane that survives such an incident is very lucky.It is possible that an Iranian Tor system accidentally brought down the Ukrainian plane. It is also possible that it experienced an engine failure that ruptured the full fuel tanks and set it on fire. Something else like a bird strike may have cause engine damage. There are many other possibilities. We will have to wait for more evidence and for the results of the ongoing investigation to learn what really happened.But there is one thing that we can say for sure. Two pictures of missile heads taken at an unknown location by unknown persons at an unknown time are not sufficient evidence for any accusations against Iran.Posted by b on January 9, 2020 at 18:49 UTC NTS Notes: I am in agreement with Moon of Alabama on this issue, for again 'who benefits'? from an Iranian "shoot down" of that aircraft? And as shown, the visual evidence that the criminals in the Pentagon are trying to push is so flimsy and easily shown as nothing but fake!It is interesting that Moon of Alabama does bring up Iran's own "Tor" self defence system, and it is very possible that if this was a "shoot down" then it was purely BY ACCIDENT and not intentional..And if the US does indeed prove that as fact, then they themselves are idiots for many forget that some 30 years ago, on July 3rd, 1988, the US 'accidentally' launched an Aegis missile, from the USS Vincennes, in the Persian Gulf that hit and destroyed an Iranian passenger jet, that killed some 290 passengers and crew on board, at that time.. .That incident was ruled an "accident" at that time and no action was taken against the US for that shoot down!But again, the US could not help itself here in trying to vilify Iran, and therefore they are concocting the idiocy that Iran somehow "deliberately shot the plane down themselves".... Only a total moron would accept such a ridiculous argument!Look, I am not in any way going to disrespect the victims of that horrific crash, but the facts are that it does appear to be more of an accident rather than criminal action..... And I am going to wait and see what any additional evidence does come forward before stating what had really happened here... But again, I am not going to accept a "shoot down" for that is so illogical and seriously flawed...More to comeNTS*Update January 10th, 2019: Well, apparently I and some others in the real truth movement are correct in that this was NOT a DELIBERATE shooting down of that Ukrainian aircraft... Apparently the Iranian military has admitted earlier today that its military did indeed accidentally shoot down that aircraft, and Iran is indeed doing the right thing in admitting their tragic mistake..But I cannot help but notice how the Jew spew media is vilifying Iran for this tragic mistake... OK, Iran did make a mistake and they should be right now working at doing what is necessary to compensate the victims families for this error..... But to now use this as an excuse by the US for war? I do not think so, and this is due to the fact that the US military has in the past (as I have clearly shown above) done this same type of tragic error, and we do not see the nations that suffered from those US mistakes now going to war against them for those, do we??Again, this was absolutely NOT deliberate... We must not forget that at the time of this tragic mistake by Iran, their military was on high alert and their defence missile systems were switched on awaiting a possible US/Israel missile strike against Tehran.... It was during that time of heightened alert that the Ukrainian aircraft happened to be flying out back to Ukraine.....Mistakes always happen, especially in time of war or nations on the edge of war.... All we can do is hope that nations do learn from these tragedies to avoid them from reoccurring in the future..More to comeNTS