Of course the US backed Kurds in Afrin rejected the Russian offer!Since they and their backers have other objectives.First an observation: When news of Operation Olive Branch first broke the news coverage on main stream and many alternatives sites was absent! Today, I notice more msm coverage of the ongoing situation- A nearly two day delay. I suspect we'll get some heavy spin this coming week via the media- bad Turkey, bad Russia, bad Iran- Especially bad Turkey.Link
Officials from Syrian Kurdish administration said Russia offered Kurds protection if they hand over Afrin region to Syrian President Bashar Assad’s forces.
Nobahar Mustafa and Sinam Mohammad, the representatives of Syrian Kurds in Washington D.C., were quoted by Turkish independent outlet Diken as saying that Turkey and Russia made a deal before the Afrin operation, allowing Turkish airstrikes.Kurds rejected the offer, officials said, but the withdrawal of Russian forces right before the operation indicates a deal, they said.
Keeping in mind this area has been illegitimately occupied with an intent to annex Syria. I've omitted the rubbish claims of US backed Kurds wanting to make peace with Turkey. They don't want to make peace with Turkey as it exists today.. So that claim would be spin. Absurd spin.Here is the original source of the above information put through translate below
Russia Is Turkey the green light burns, whether he opens airspace to Syria speculation for days while Turkish Armed Forces bombed the name of Afrin 'olive branch' to put the YPG officially launched operations.There's dust in the air. Russia gave approval to Turkey in exchange for what? What will the US reaction be? What is the scope of the intervention? Will it reach Menbic as President Erdogan said? We have directed all these questions to senior Syrian Kurdish officials in Washington. Nobahar Mustafa from the Democratic Assembly of Syria and Sinam Mohammad Afrin from the North Syrian Democratic Administration told Diken about the negotiations that are currently taking place.Here are some highlights:Russia's game- The Russians are making promises everywhere, but Russia's main goal is to weaken the YPG and deliver the Afrin to the regime.- The regime is trying to convince it that way, 'if Turkey would come good for you,' he says. But the regime does not want Turkey to come, did you know that Turkish soldiers were settled out. But apparently the regime was convinced in a way that the airfield was opened. The Russians Kafrjane [ceasefire observation point near the border with Turkey] pulled their forces under circulation changes include sheath. They agreed with Turkey. Net.- Talks between Russia and YPG are ongoing. If you deliver us ' Afrin 'to the regime, then the regime will protect you.' We said ' we will never accept' . At Afrin we said we will resist until the end. At the same time, we had negotiations with the regime. We told them we could turn the menag weather south of Azaz and some control points in the area, but never Afrin.- Sochi meeting [the Russians gathered the opposition] will join. But after this point, we can change this course, of course.- New alliances will be formed. Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt.We want to have peaceful relations with Turkey- Turkey is sowing the seeds of a new and fierce battle with these attacks. On the one hand, the Arabs and the Kurds are fighting, while on the other they open space for the ISIID. Russia which point to Turkey 'Stop' he says, it is not yet clear.- will give way to snatch Turkey until Apparently they want the Kurds but we are determined to resist. We have MANPAD (anti-aircraft missile). It could be Russian. We have repeatedly extended the hand of peace to Turkey, always pushed back and now they're bombing civilians in Afrin. At least seven civilians were injured. Most women and children. In the past, we were talking directly with the AKP government. Then the negotiations stopped. Turkey closed doors. We had contact at least through HDP. That road was blocked too, your friends are all in prison. We have not had direct contact since 2015.- We repeat it anyway. We want to have peaceful relations with Turkey.McGurk in Rojava- Our demand from the United States was commissioned to put an end to Turkey's operation. Brett McGurk [US president's special representative before the coalition against the ISIID] In Rojava, [the commander of the Democratic Forces of Syria] today met with the General Mazlum and the Syrian Democratic Parliament Co-President Ilham Ahmad. (McGurk's rojava tour was decided before the operation, that is, the routine trip AZ) We told him that the coalition should declare a no-fly zone to protect our territories, including Afrin, from air attacks, but we are ready on land but air attacks are of course a huge threat. . Turkey's Afrin attack and demeanor will put the uS in the face of it, our view of how the United States can say that it is the clearest test of a friendly ally.- Rex Tillerson [US Secretary of State] has made diplomatic initiatives to stop his operation by calling Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu, but that is not enough. NATO member Turkey might stop Turkey wants the United States.- All this is happening to ISID, Iran and the regime. How can the United States stand on this?- Turkey wants to enter the Menbiç. But it is difficult for Menbic to attack because the US forces are in that geography. In our opinion, there are negotiations between the US and Russia regarding crime. Al Qaeda and El Nusra gangs in Idlib are also very uncomfortable with the United States. We said to the USA, 'Come to Afrin, support us, we will clean El Nusra.' But they have not accepted it yet.Limitlessness- The border issue is not new. We are already there. We have powers on the border. Training on technical issues such as mine clearance. The first explanation of the coalition's speech on border power was misunderstood. It was bad. The Russians were also very angry.
Yesterday Northerntruthseeker and I had exchanged the comments below:
NortherntruthseekerJanuary 20, 2018 at 9:13 AMI do wonder if Turkey's sudden move here is part of a diabolical plan for giving the US their "excuse" to send combat troops directly into Syria now... The Turks are giving the US government their out by allowing those criminals to now go out and claim that they have no choice but to go into Syria to "protect" the Kurds...
- PennyJanuary 20, 2018 at 9:22 AMHey Norththe turks move is not sudden at all- it's been talked about for sometime now.In my opinion the use of the kurds was a means to get Turkey into Syria in hopes of further destabilizing Turkey- for the desired israel 2.0 aka kurdistan- which will be a terror state/expanded Israel- etc.,... USrael needs a big chunk of Turkey to be annexed for this "kurdistan" much water and oil resources, nevermind blocking Iran etc. Oh and impeding Russia via the Black Sea.think of the Turkish Straits. Have a post here on that but for now wikipedia will sufficehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Straits The US already has troops in Syria and lots of them- they don't need this turkish incursion to justify their desired intervention, though they may spin in that manner.
Impeding Russia via the Black Sea and the Turkish Straits.. The previous information regarding the significance of the Turkish straits is relinked below:Turkey's referendum: Is the Sky Really Falling?
The modern treaty controlling relations is the 1936 Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Turkish Straits, which is still in force. It gives the Republic of Turkey control over warships entering the straits but guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime.
Awareness that control of this waterway is of vital importance to the many players involved in Syria is one important key to understanding events occurring present day
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