The “Solution” to this problem after the Mass Media Hysteria / reaction?
HR 2640 – The NICS IMPROVEMENT ACT OF 2007 (OR…. Veterans Disarmament Act)
This was passed by both houses and signed into law by George W Bush. We (Deadlinelive.info) were able to get both the McCain and Obama campaigns on the record in 2007 – they BOTH supported the legislation.
In an unrecorded voice vote the gun grabbing bill once known at HR 297, HR 2640 also known as “The Veteran’s Disarmament Act” by Pro 2nd Amendment grass roots organizations across America, passed, and will soon be on the way to President Bush for signature or veto.
The bill calls for a guilty before being proven innocent program of separating which Americans may realize the 2nd amendment and which may not. According to the bill any past, present, or future “thought crime” may threaten your right to purchase or own a firearm. Without a trial!
The core of the bill’s problems is section 101(c)(1)(C), which makes you a “prohibited person” on the basis of a “medical finding of disability,” so long as a citizen or veteran had an “opportunity” for some sort of “hearing” before some “lawful authority” (other than a court). Presumably, this “lawful authority” could even be the psychiatrist himself.
*Note that unlike with an accused murderer, the hearing doesn’t have to occur. The “lawful authority” doesn’t have to be unbiased. The citizen or veteran is not necessarily entitled to an attorney — much less an attorney financed by the government. Children with past diagnosis for ADHD, People diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, veterans dealing with PTSD and who seek psychiatric help, men and woman who are charged or suspected of domestic violence, and anyone currently under medication for psychiatric reasons what so ever… Are targets of HR 2640.
The Following are questions and anomolies surrounding the April 16th 2007 shooting
1. In order to shoot 2 to 3 shots with both guns in the hand accurately, the person must be a professional (Columbine CO. incident included 2 people (allegedly), 3 guns, 900 shots = 13 deaths)
CSH(Cho Seung Hee) was never trained in the army.
If you have shot a gun before, you would know it is hard to fire a pistol so accurately, in so quick time.
CSH had only bought the guns a month before the shooting. How is it possible for him to shoot so good?
2. Emily, reported to be his girlfriend, is actually not his girlfriend.
3. Emily was not related with CSH in any way, but he went to her dormitory and shot it up.
4. CSH’s body had 2 shots in the chest, 1 in the head.
There are 3 common ways of suicidal with gun:
1)shooting from the side of the head
2)shooting through your mouth
3)Shooting from under your head
The usual suicidal would usually have shots in the side of the head or the face. CSH, however, had a bullet stuck in the back of his head
Most people who were fired at, got 3 shots. CSH, also was found with 3 shots in his body
There was once a scientific experiment for the Korean army incident- It explained that it is extremely hard to shoot yourself multiple times after being shot in the chest or the head. Again, CSH had 1 shot in the head, 2 shots in the chest.
Why was he shot 3 times, just like the others? Does it make sense that he was shot in such a way?
5. There was no witness to the suicidal scene- The survivors in the scene had ran out of the classroom (someone said the killer’s eyes were not Asian but these kinds of sayings were ignored).
What’s the truth?
6. Nobody saw CSH’s face.
7. The witness’s say CSH was an Asian with a mask on, and was about 6 ft tall and big.
8. The gun vender described CSH as an Asian. period.
There was no films of CCTV, and no other evidence.
9. The vender said he had sold 50 bullets to CSH.
There were 62 deaths and injuries.
There was no one who died was shot less than 3 times
(32 deaths x 3 shots/death….30 injuries x 2 shots/injury…60 extra bullets)
Calculated, CSH must have had more than 200 shots to make this incident true.
10. The killer had erased the code on the gun. The receipt for the purchase of the gun was found in the killer’s bag. What’s the possibility of the killer keeping the receipt for the gun after a month?
If anyone would take effort and time to erase the code on the gun, wouldn’t they be careful enough to get rid of the receipt?(It’s not easy to erase the code. It takes few seconds to get rid of the receipt)
11. The witnesses say the killer did not wear, nor carry any bags. CSH did have a bag.
12. Obviously, the video he had sent, was not made by himself. Even the New York Times pointed this out.
13. According to the Police, the gun at the incident was automatic. Watch the videos and hear the sounds- It’s all fired with single shot guns.
Think about it. There are about 10-15 rounds in a pistol, and there were 32 deaths, with 3 shots in each. With both pistols in both hands, it is impossible to reload. Watch the video, shots are constantly fired.
14. CSH had no friends at all, according to the student. Before few days of the incident, he was with 3 Americans. Who were they?
15. In the news, CSH had done this for the hate of the rich people. If this is true, he could have simply shot the classrooms. There was no reason for him to go to the dormitories and kill 2 people, who were not in any relation with CSH.
And why did CSH, after the first shootings, make the video, walk around the school to send it, and then go to the 2nd shootings?
16. When CSH’s body was found. His ID was PRESENT. Why was his identity reported later on?
17. The Witness’ sayings are not matching correctly. Some say they have not heard any gunfire in their building, but other say they heard it from that building.
18. The photos which were sent to NBC does not match CSH’s face.
Observing the eyebrows, eyes, and the face shape, it is different. Some say it’s because he has his glasses off. Look again, it does not match CSH.
19. CSH’s body was found with the 28 dead bodies in the classroom. The only survivor said, the killer had ran away after killing the 28 people, but CSH was found dead with the other dead bodies
20. The classroom, dormitory, hallways, school gate, the gun shop.
The films of the CCTV were NOT exposed to the public. WHY?
So What’s wrong with the reports/news?
-CCTV
-2 guns/amateur, yet many students died and many were injured as a professional shooter would have done it
-According to the witness, CSH had apparently left the classroom
-CSH was found dead in the classroom
-The gun code was erased
-The receipt for the gun was found in the bag
These are the theories made about this
-CSH had bought the guns for someone else?
-The killer knew CSH did not have a positive social life
-The killer decided to use CSH
-The killer had planned this out to keep himself covered
One last thing,
The timing is not logical
CSH took 2 hours to get to the 2nd shooting after the 1st.
In 2 hours, it is impossible to film, edit the video, get to the post office and have it in the receiver’s inbox.
So the video was made before the incident, with the Killer?
- www.informationliberation.com… -
Virginia Tech Shooting ‘Oddities’ By Lori Price, www.legitgov.org Updated 10 Dec 2011
Seung-Hui Cho (left) in U.S. Marines uniform, pulled from Wikipedia [Source]
Revision of Va. Tech shooting report corrects timeline 04 Dec 2009 Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine is releasing a revised version of the investigative report on the mass shooting at Virginia Tech in 2007. The addendum released Friday corrects the timeline of events on the morning of April 16, when shooter Seung Hui Cho began the rampage that resulted in the deaths of 32 students and teachers and the injuries of several others.
Revised Va. Tech Report Shows Response Gaps –The president’s office, two academic buildings were also shut down ‘well before’ general alert 04 Dec 2009 Some Virginia Tech officials warned their own families and the president’s office was locked down well before a campus-wide alert was issued in the 2007 slayings of 32 people, according to a revised state report that details new fumbles in the response to the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. At least two officials with a crisis response team called their family members after the first shootings at a dorm and about 90 minutes before the all-campus alert was issued at 9:26 a.m. The president’s office was locked down at 8:52 a.m. and two academic buildings were also shut down before the general alert. The revisions… also added details about troubling behavior by Seung-Hui Cho and includes information from his mental-health records.
Iraq link to campus killer Cho 19 Apr 2007 The sister of the gunman responsible for the deadliest shooting rampage in modern US history works as a contractor for a State Department office that oversees billions of dollars in American aid for Iraq. Sun-kyung is employed by the Iraq Reconstruction Management Office, according to US officials and a State Department staff directory that says she works from an annex near the department’s headquarters in Washington.
Cho’s sister works for McNeil Technologies: Admistration official 17 Apr 2007 Seung-Hui Cho, the student who killed 32 people and then himself yesterday, left a long and “disturbing” note in his dorm room at Virginia Tech, say law enforcement sources… His older sister, Sun-Kyung, graduated from Princeton University in 2004. A source, who asked to be identified as a senior Administration official, said she works for McNeil Technologies, a firm contracted by the State Department to manage reconstruction efforts in Iraq. [From the McNeil Technologies website: 'Since 1985, McNeil Technologies has been a premier provider of critical professional services and reliable business solutions to the US Federal Government. We help government agencies meet some of their most complex service needs...' Overview of McNeil Technologies Intelligence Services: Our services and capabilities include: Intelligence Architecture Operations in support of the US Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC). Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) which supports the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and other government agencies. HUMINT (Human Intel) operations in support of DIA, or with federal counter Intel outsourcing effort...]
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Police say Virginia Tech campus gunman was Ross Truett Ashley of Radford –Ashley fled on foot before ‘turning the gun on himself.’ 10 Dec 2011 The crazed gunman who killed a police officer at Virginia Tech has been identified by police as 22-year-old college student Ross Truett Ashley. Ashley, a student at nearby Radford University, killed himself after shooting dead officer Deriek Crouse. Police also say Ashley stole a car on Wednesday [?] from a real estate office in Radford, which is about 15 miles from Virginia Tech.
Virginia Tech shootings: Same gun used in both killings –Investigators are confident that the shooter acted alone [well, except for his psy-ops handler], but are still working to figure out the motive. 09 Dec 2011 State Police and Virginia Tech revealed new information about the investigation into the deadly shootings on campus Thursday. State Police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said ballistics evidence showed the same handgun was used to kill Virginia Tech Police Officer Deriek Crouse, and the second man found dead in “The Cage” parking lot.
Virginia Tech says shots fired on campus, 2 killed 08 Dec 2011 Officials at Virginia Tech University, the site of the worst mass shooting [false flag] in modern U.S. history, say a police officer and another person have been shot and killed on the school’s campus and the suspect remains on the loose. A news release from the school says the police officer pulled someone over in what was a routine traffic stop Thursday. The officer was shot and killed during the traffic stop.
Heads up! The false flags are about to come fast and furious as the US economy tanks after manufactured debt ceiling ‘crisis:’ Virginia Tech (home of the false flag) On Lockdown Following Report of Gunman 04 Aug 2011 Virginia Tech Locked Down After Report of Man With Gun 04 Aug 2011 Virginia Tech, the site of the worst campus shooting in U.S. history, is on lockdown with reports of a gunman on the campus. The university relations office confirmed that there is an alert but would offer no further detail. Students received text messages and emails that a gunman is on the campus. “Person with a gun reported near Dietrick. Stay inside. Secure doors. Emergency personnel responding. Call 911 for help,” the alert warned. On the university’s web site, a message was posted at 9:37 a.m. alerting students that there is a gunman near Dietrick Hall. Dietrick Hall is a three floor, more than 92,000 square foot dining facility on the Blacksburg, Va., campus, according to the university’s web site. Students have been told to stay indoors.
Tech Gunman’s ‘Missing’ Records Released 20 Aug 2009 The missing mental health records of Seung Hui Cho, released Wednesday afternoon, provide more evidence that Virginia Tech’s counseling center and the state’s mental health system failed to recognize, communicate and treat the gunman’s increasingly erratic behavior… On Dec. 14, 2005, the day Cho was released from a psychiatric hospital, was declared a danger for threatening to kill himself and was ordered by a judge to receive involuntary outpatient treatment at Cook Counseling Center, the therapist who saw him there did not evaluate his mood.
VT Shooting Victims’ Families Want Investigation Reopened 28 Jul 2009 Relatives of Virginia Tech victims are asking the state to reopen its investigation of the 2007 mass shootings at the school. A group including parents of many of the 32 people killed by student gunman Seung-Hui Cho issued a statement Tuesday calling on Gov. Tim Kaine to reopen a state panel’s review. The statement follows disclosure last week that the former director of the university’s counseling center ‘found’ missing mental health records for Cho at his home. Cho committed suicide after killing students and faculty members in a dormitory and classroom building on April 16, 2007.
Records of Virginia Tech Gunman Discovered –Criminal investigation is underway to determine how the employee was able to take the records and why the documents were not uncovered during state investigations following the shooting 22 Jul 2009 Virginia Tech gunman Seung Hui Cho had been treated at the college’s counseling center before the shooting rampage in which he killed 32 students, contradicting earlier accounts of his psychiatric history, according to newly discovered mental health records located in the home of the center’s former director. According to a memo written by a university lawyer and obtained by The Washington Post, the former director, Robert Miller, had moved the records into his home more than a year before [!] the April 16, 2007, massacre, during which Cho also took his own life. Word the records had been found first came from Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine during a Wednesday morning news conference.
VT professor told law firm second building was under lockdown 18 Jun 2008 A Virginia Tech professor contacted a law firm representing some of the families who lost loved ones in the April 16th massacre and said a second building was under lock down after the first set of shootings in West Ambler Johnston Hall. Attorney Douglas Fierberg, one of the attorneys representing more than one dozen families, said the professor would have testified under oath he dropped his wife off for work on Tech’s campus the morning of April 16, 2007 around 8 AM. Fierberg said the professor would have testified his wife told him her building was under lock down… Fierberg said the operator transferred the professor to Tech’s Office of University Relations, where whomever took the call told the professor the rumor “must be a joke,” and “if anyone would know about a shooting, we would know first.”
Feds Probing Va. Tech Copycat Case 04 Apr 2008 A 20-year-old with a weapons cache that included AK-47s was arrested Friday in South Florida on federal charges of threatening to re-enact the Virginia Tech massacre, the U.S. attorney’s office said. Local authorities had arrested Calin Chi Wong at his home last week after finding 13 firearms and more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition, some that could pierce armor, and bullets that could take down aircraft or military machinery. But the suspect’s brother told The Associated Press that Wong “doesn’t even know how to use a gun.”
Report of the Virginia Tech Review Panel 30 Aug 2007
Panel: Va. Tech Failed to Respond to Cho Warning Signs 30 Aug 2007 The long-awaited report of the Virginia Tech Review Panel contains a wealth of new details about the life of Seung Hui Cho, the troubled 23-year-old senior who murdered 32 students and faculty before turning a gun on himself.
Virginia Tech Criticized for Actions in Shooting 30 Aug 2007 A state panel has sharply criticized decisions made by Virginia Tech before and after last April’s shooting massacre, saying university officials could have saved lives by notifying students and faculty members earlier about the killings on campus.
Lawyer Who Directed Sept. 11 Compensation to Oversee Virginia Tech Program 05 Jul 2007 Kenneth R. Feinberg, the Washington lawyer who directed the federal program to compensate relatives of victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, will oversee the distribution of the $7 million that has been donated to Virginia Tech after the April campus massacre, university officials said Thursday. In November 2001, Mr. Feinberg was appointed special master of the Sept. 11 Victim Compensation Fund by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft.
Va. Tech panel gets Cho’s mental records 14 Jun 2007 Relatives of the student gunman who killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus turned over his mental health records to a gubernatorial panel investigating the shootings, the panel’s chairman said Thursday. Federal privacy laws governing health and student information had prevented the panel from reviewing Seung-Hui Cho’s records. Panel Chairman W. Gerald Massengill had said he would go to court if necessary to obtain them.
Campus killers’ hints ignored 13 Jun 2007 About once every year, a campus murder is committed after administrators take insufficient action despite warnings about threats, flawed security or dangerous situations, a USA TODAY analysis of college homicides since 1991 shows. In at least 15 of the cases reviewed, the campus killer [black ops hireling] showed signs of being a danger, often with either a criminal or psychotic background, or by making violent threats. The massacre of 32 at Virginia Tech in April, like those other 15 cases, fits a pattern of killings committed by isolated, vengeful students who turn homicidal with shocking brutality.
Va. Tech Families Demand Role on Panel 11 Jun 2007 Relatives of the Virginia Tech shooting victims demanded representation Monday on a gubernatorial panel studying the killings, saying in a letter that they feel “ostracized.” They also questioned the status of a memorial fund that has generated millions of dollars to honor the 32 victims of the student gunman.
Va. Investigator Threatens Court Fight 23 May 2007 The panel studying last month’s massacre at Virginia Tech will go to court if necessary to get gunman Seung-Hui Cho’s medical and mental health records, the group’s chairman said Tuesday.
Panel receives details, roadblock 21 May 2007 Seung-Hui Cho did not fire half of his ammunition before taking his own life on April 16, Virginia State Police Superintendent, Steven Flaherty, said to the state panel Monday. Police have found 174 used cartridge casings from both a 9 MM handgun and a .22 caliber handgun. Police also recovered 203 live rounds of ammunition… Earlier in the Monday’s testimony, the panel met a roadblock during the presentation from Kay Heidbreder, the University Counsel.
Va. Tech massacre witness killed in mysterious car crash (total411.info) 11 May 2007 Jeff Soriano witnessed the Va. tech massacre and was promptly killed in a mysterious car crash five days later. What did he see? Many witnesses reported a 6-foot tall gunman incongruous with the patsy Seung Cho. (CNN report and comments)
Virginia Tech Student Survives Shooting, Dies In Crash 23 Apr 2007 A Virginia Tech freshman who returned home with his family after last week’s campus massacre was killed in a car crash, his father [Enrique Soriano] confirmed Sunday. Jeff Santodomingo Soriano, 18, died from his injuries Friday in a Norfolk, Va., hospital after he was pulled from the wreckage of his burning vehicle, police said. Jeff Soriano’s vehicle flipped several times and struck a tree, investigators said. Family members who witnessed the accident told WTKR TV that Soriano was speeding and racing [from] another car when the accident happened. They said the person he was ‘racing’ fled the scene after the accident.
Va. Tech Review Panel Holds 1st Meeting 11 May 2007 The panel studying the shooting rampage at Virginia Tech held its first public meeting Thursday, with Gov. Timothy M. Kaine asking for details about the gunman, how the events unfolded, and how the state and other agencies responded.
Companies See Demand For Instant Emergency Alerts –Local School Uses Red Alert System 09 May 2007 EZ School Alert, a new company that was developed after the Weston High School shooting, delivers instant communications to parents about emergencies, school closings and informational reminders. Amtelco, a 30-year-old business in McFarland, sells a notification system called Red Alert. It allows a school, business or government to send emergency messages. Interest in Amtelco’s system has increased dramatically since the Virginia Tech Shootings, WISC-TV reported. “Our inflow of Red Alert requests and hits on our site has been 365 percent,” said Tim Brady, Amtelco regional manager. “It probably wasn’t until the Virginia Tech incident that schools really started to look and say, ‘Do we have capabilities, do we have the ability to notify our parents, our students and other relatives instantly?’” said Steve Van Dinter, CEO of EZ School Alert… Amtelco just landed a huge federal government contract, selling its Red Alert system to FEMA.
Cho’s ’05 dorm visit led to police complaint 09 May 2007 Virginia Tech police filed a harassment complaint against Seung Hui Cho with the university’s honor court after the future mass killer made a late-night visit to a woman’s dormitory room in November 2005, according to a campus police report. The university would not say whether Cho was called to a hearing or disciplined by the school.
Cho was in grip of demonic power, says church leader 07 May 2007 Cho Hyang-in, desperate to find help for her silent, angry son, sought out some members of One Mind Church in Virginia to heal him of what the church’s head pastor called “demonic power”.
Britain’s Minister of Security to lecture at his alma mater: Virginia Tech 27 Feb 2007 In celebration of the 40th anniversary of the Department of Political Science, College of Liberal Arts and Human Sciences, at Virginia Tech, a public lecture by noted alumnus Tony McNulty, Minister for Police and Security in the British government, will be held on Friday, March 23, at 5 p.m. at The Inn at Virginia Tech and Skelton Conference Center. McNulty is responsible for the police service, counter-terrorism, and crime reduction (including violent crime, guns, knives, community safety and anti-social behavior). He also has cross-departmental responsibility for parliamentary business.
Bomb Warning Found Before Tech Shooting 06 May 2007 Minutes before Seung-Hui Cho’s rampage inside Virginia Tech’s Norris Hall, a note found on a second-floor stairwell door warned, “Bomb will go off if you open the door,” a school employee said Saturday. Virginia State Police confirmed a threatening note was found in the room where janitor Pamela Tickle says she left it after the shooting, but they have not linked it to Cho.
NBC show foreshadowed Virginia shootings 01 May 2007 The television network to which the Virginia Tech gunman sent a disturbing multi-media “manifesto” about his motives had only hours earlier shown a documentary about another mentally-ill man who went on a killing spree. Cho Seung-hui’s decision to interrupt his rampage through the university campus in order to post a DVD explaining his motives to NBC News in New York has been one of the most puzzling aspects of his behaviour on the day of the killings. Cho’s parcel to NBC included a rambling note that began: “You forced me into a corner.” On the night of Sunday April 15, the day before Cho shot dead 32 people, the prime time current affairs show “Dateline NBC” devoted its entire edition to the story of the psychotic murderer John Hyde and the failure of mental health experts to heed warnings about the danger he posed after he was released from hospital care.
Student charged for writing violent essay –High school senior says he was just following the assignment 27 Apr 2007 (Cary, IL) Authorities have filed a second disorderly conduct charge against a high school senior [Allen Lee] arrested for writing an essay officials described as disturbing and inappropriate. [Now we know the reason for the Manchurian Killer, (Cho) - the clampdown. --MDR]
U.S. Proposal Could Block Gun Buyers Tied to Terror 27 Apr 2007 The Justice Department proposed legislation on Thursday that would give the attorney general discretion to bar terrorism suspects from buying firearms, seeking to close a gap in federal gun laws. The measure, which was introduced by Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey, would give the attorney general authority to deny a firearm purchase [!] if the buyer was found “to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism.”
Police Describe Struggle to Enter Hall at Va. Tech –With Doors Chained, Access Took 5 Minutes 27 Apr 2007 Police officers desperately shot at the chains that Seung Hui Cho [?] had used to lock the entrances to Norris Hall at Virginia Tech before they shot away a deadbolt on a side door and used bolt cutters to enter the building, authorities said Thursday. Law enforcement officials reiterated Thursday that they have found no explanation for Cho’s actions and no connections between him and either Emily Hilscher or Ryan Clark that would explain his decision to start his attack at the dorm.
Va. Tech gunman fired 170 rounds in 9 minutes 26 Apr 2007 The rampage lasted nine minutes – enough time for Seung-Hui Cho to unleash 170 rounds from his two pistols, or about one shot every three seconds.
Va. Tech Killer’s Motives Pursued –Some Actions During Rampage Still a Mystery 26 Apr 2007 Law enforcement officials said they found 17 ammunition magazines at the scene. They said they have read reams of e-mail and cellphone records and interviewed hundreds of witnesses but have found no explanation for Cho’s actions. In fact, they said, they may never know why Seung Hui Cho started at the dorm, waited more than two hours and then killed 30 more people at Norris Hall.
Cops can’t link gunman to 1st Va. Tech victims 26 Apr 2007 Police said Wednesday they can find no link between the Virginia Tech gunman and his first victims [Emily Hilscher and Ryan Clark] in last week’s shooting rampage, the deadliest in U.S. history.
Professor fired over Va. Tech discussion 23 Apr 2007 An adjunct professor [Nicholas Winset] was fired after leading a classroom discussion about the Virginia Tech shootings in which he pointed a marker at some students and said “pow.”
Fired Emmanuel College professor fights back 23 Apr 2007 A former Emmanuel College adjunct professor [Nicholas Winset], who was fired last week after using a classroom discussion to mimic the recent tragedy at Virginia Tech, said yesterday that the college violated his rights and has tried to stifle valid discussion of a controversial topic.
Tech gunman shot victims over 100 times 22 Apr 2007 Dr. William Massello, the assistant state medical examiner based in Roanoke, said Sunday that Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his temple after firing enough shots to wound his 32 victims more than 100 times. But there was nothing unusual about Cho’s autopsy, he said, and nothing that would have hinted at any psychological problems that might have led him to commit the worst shooting massacre in modern U.S. history.
Tech Shooter May Have Used eBay Account 21 Apr 2007 An eBay account that investigators believe may have belonged to the Virginia Tech killer was used to buy ammunition for the type of gun used in the rampage, according to information on the auction site. The eBay account holder with the handle Blazers5505 also sold several books and tickets to Virginia Tech football games and lists Blacksburg as the account’s address. A search warrant affidavit filed Friday stated that investigators wanted to search Seung-Hui Cho’s e-mail accounts, including the address Blazers5505@hotmail.com.
Cho’s Name Didn’t Appear On Mentally Ill List 21 Apr 2007 Virginia authorities have submitted the names of more than 80,000 people with legally certified mental health problems to the FBI to ensure they don’t buy guns. Unfortunately, the name of Cho Seung-Hui was not among them.
Tech Probe Seeks Shooter’s Phone Records 21 Apr 2007 Investigators pressed ahead Saturday with their search for Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho’s motives. Authorities sought Cho’s cell phone records… “Seung-Hui Cho is known to have communicated by cellular telephone and may have communicated with others concerning his plans to carry out attacks on students and faculty at Virginia Tech,” police wrote Friday in an affidavit seeking records from Verizon Wireless. [Uh, the affidavit was filed on *Friday?* Why not *Monday?' They need to check his handler's records (over at Langley), as well.]
MSNBC live: Cell phone, computer of victim seized 21 Apr 2007
Sources: Feds Ordered VA Police to Stand Down –Local authorities were told to take no action to pursue killer By Paul Joseph Watson 20 Apr 2007 Police and EMT workers at Virginia Tech tell us that campus police were given a federal order to stand down and not pursue killer Cho Seung-Hui as Monday’s bloodshed unfolded. Though wishing to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, we have received calls from police and EMT’s who tell us that a stand down order was in place, and this is also confirmed by eyewitness Matt Kazee, who is a student at VA Tech.
RCMP gather school blueprints, photos to prepare for shootings 19 Apr 2007 The RCMP is gathering aerial photographs and blueprints of thousands of schools across Canada as part of its plan for responding to school shootings, which it unveiled Thursday. Under the School Action For Emergencies (SAFE) program, the RCMP plan to map out every elementary and secondary school in the force’s areas of operations by September — a total of 4,700 schools.
Kafka, Orwell rolling in their graves: Student Arrested Over Va. Tech Remarks 18 Apr 2007 A University of Colorado student pleaded not guilty Wednesday to making comments that classmates deemed sympathetic [?] toward the gunman blamed for killing 32 students and himself at Virginia Tech, authorities said. During a class discussion Tuesday of Monday’s massacre at Virginia Tech, Max Karson “made comments about understanding how someone could kill 32 people,” university police Cmdr. Brad Wiesley said. [Ok, what about someone who uttered sympathetic remarks about the person who uttered sympathetic remarks? --LRP]
From Chris Matthews of MSNBC’s ‘Hardball,’ 18 Apr 2007: Cho filed off the serial numbers on the gun. Yet, he used a credit card to buy the gun and kept the receipt for the purchase.
Breaking: Chicago Tribune: Alleged gunman left note in dorm room [My theory on its announced contents: "I did this for Al Qaeda in Iraq. I've come to the US because the Democrat congress wants a timeline for troop withdrawal. P.S.: Rosie O'Donnell is wrong. Osama bin Laden did carry out the 9/11 terrorist attacks. If NSA wiretaps were allowed, I wouldn't have been able to do this." --LRP]
“The average ‘nut’ is not this well armed, nor able to kill with such precision, and so quickly.” –Comment by CLG reader, Blueridge
More from Blueridge, who lives in WV:
I have been watching Roanoke local TV with excellent coverage. Brian Williams of NBC interviewed two students, one who was shot. The following facts about the shooter emerged as they met face to face:
1. did not recognize from campus
2. reloaded clips (semi auto pistol(s)) very fast
3. “looked trained” in use of weapons, pro
4. wearing red cap, vest (impression of trained “beret”)
5. authorities said he had “no ID” on him
6. gunman wearing all black (pro wear)
7. camera phone recorded “blast” after fired shots.
The school police stood down for two hours, without notifying students or faculty. During the press conference, they said they often run “drills.” School president and campus police chief were absolutely emotionless during both conferences, very matter of fact. Police not providing ID, not providing weapon details… Why?
AFT source tells NBC News that the gunman was not a Virginia Tech student, but someone who had access to the dorm.
Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin –Deadly accuracy, disturbing revelations suggest outside involvement in VA Massacre, cocktail of brainwashing from prozac, violent video games contributed to carnage By Paul Joseph Watson 19 Apr 2007 Charles Mesloh, Professor of Criminology at Florida Gulf Coast University, told NBC 2 News that he was shocked [Seung-Hui] Cho could have killed 32 people with two handguns absent expert training… “I’m dumbfounded by the number of people he managed to kill with these weapons,” said Mesloh, “The only thing I can figure is that he got close to them and he simply executed them.” Mesloh said the killer performed like a trained professional. “He had a 60% fatality rate with handguns – that’s unheard of given 9 millimeters don’t kill people instantly,” said Mesloh…
Authorities Tentatively ID Va. Tech Gunman 16 Apr 2007 Authorities say they’ve tentatively identified the gunman behind Monday’s shooting rampage at Virginia Tech that killed 32 victims, but they’re not releasing any information yet. Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum told reporters that two weapons were recovered, but he declined to describe them.
Gunman may have made 3 bomb threats to test ‘security response’ 16 Apr 2007 Authorities were investigating whether the gunman who killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history was a Chinese man who arrived in the United States last year on a student visa. The 24-year-old man arrived in San Francisco on United Airlines on Aug. 7 on a visa issued in Shanghai, the source said. Police believe three bomb threats on the campus last week may have been attempts by the man to test the campus’ security response, the source said. The exits to the buildings where the shootings occurred were chained by the shooter, the source said.
A ‘person-of-interest’ was being interviewed while the second shooting occurred. He was not a student. –Press conference, Blacksburg, VA
CNN: ‘The Virginia Tech killer chained doors shut at his second shooting site before going into a German class and opening fire.’
VA Tech wasn’t locked down for two hours, after the first shooting was reported at 7:15 AM. The shooter apparently made it over to the *other side of campus* and *carried out more shootings,* unmolested, two hours later!
It has not been confirmed whether or not the shooter is a student. [How did the shooter access the buildings, when a scanned ID is required for access?]
First report: The suspect was led away in handcuffs.
Second report: The suspect was killed.
Third report: The suspect killed himself.
Fourth report: There were two suspects.
Individual had same style of guns (*two* handguns) used by FBI agents, a ‘high-powered’ weapon and the shootings were ‘well-planned.’
MSNBC’s FBI profiler: ‘students lined up and shot execution style’
19 hours after the first shooting, the shooter(s) has/have not been identified. [00:15 EDT 17 Apr 2007 Note: The shooter has finally been identified.
At press conf., VT Tech.: We thought the shooter (7:15 AM) had left the state. ?
Regardless, it appears that the Gonzales testmony will receive little coverage tomorrow. Oops, strike that: Senate postpones to Thursday the gonzales hearing, in light of VA Tech shootings. Can we expect new Blackwater USA contract$ to 'secure' college campuses? --LRP
Gunman contacted NBC News during massacre --Rambling communication, video being examined by FBI, network says 18 Apr 2007 Sometime after he killed two people in a Virginia university dormitory but before he slaughtered 30 more in a classroom building Monday morning, Cho Seung-Hui sent NBC News a rambling communication and videos about his grievances, the network said Wednesday. Cho, 23, a senior English major at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, killed 32 people in two attacks Monday before taking his own life. [Yes, in between shootings, he went to the US Post Office, parcel in hand, stood in line and mailed his carton to MSNBC. I wonder if he got tracking for the package?! --LRP]
Northrop Mall evacuated after bomb threat –Eight buildings on the Minneapolis campus were evacuated at about 1:15 p.m. and will be closed for the rest of the day. 18 Apr 2007 (University of Minnesota) Appleby, Smith, Kolthoff, Fraiser, Johnston and Morrill halls, as well as Walter Library and the Science Classrooms Building, were evacuated because of a bomb threat at about 1:15 p.m., said Dan Johnson, Powers Emergency Management Coordinator. The buildings will be closed until 10 p.m. and classes in these buildings are canceled. Police are also searching other buildings on the mall area.
WSU Vancouver evacuated due to threat; Patriot Act forum rescheduled 18 Apr 2007 The Vancouver branch of Washington State University was evacuated Tuesday night because of threatening graffiti discovered in a campus restroom shortly before an evening conference on the Patriot Act and the war on [of] terror, authorities said. University officials decided to evacuate the campus about 6:30 p.m. after the graffiti was found, according to Sgt. Mike Cooke of the Clark County sheriff’s office. The threat came on the same night that Brandon Mayfield, an attorney wrongly arrested by FBI agents after the 2004 Madrid terrorist bombings, was scheduled to appear on campus as part of a forum on civil liberties titled “Casualties of the USA Patriot Act and the War on Terror.” His wife, Mona Mayfield, said they drove to the campus and were told to leave. Mayfield said she was told the event would be rescheduled.
School Threats Follow Va. Tech Massacre 18 Apr 2007 Schools and campuses in at least 10 states were locked down or evacuated in the aftermath of a Virginia Tech student’s shooting rampage that killed 33 people. Washington State University’s branch campus in Vancouver was evacuated because of graffiti discovered in a campus restroom threatened harm likened to the Virginia slayings around 8 p.m., around the time a conference on the Patriot Act and the war on [of] terror was scheduled, authorities said. The event was to be rescheduled.
Threats Rattle Schools in 10 States 18 Apr 2007 Campus threats forced lock-downs and evacuations at universities, high schools and middle schools in at least 10 states on Tuesday, a day after a Virginia Tech student’s shooting rampage killed 33 people.
Two-Hour Delay Is Linked to Bad Lead 18 Apr 2007 New information emerged that may help explain a fateful two-hour delay by Virginia Tech officials in warning the campus of a gunman at large. According to search warrants and statements from the police, campus investigators had been busy pursuing what appears to have been a fruitless lead in the first of two shooting episodes Monday… Among the central unknowns is what prompted the gunman to move to Norris Hall, where all but the first two killings took place. The authorities said Mr. Cho’s preparations, including chaining the doors, suggested planning and premeditation, rather than a spontaneous event.
Va. Tech Gunman Writings Raised Concerns 18 Apr 2007 The gunman in the Virginia Tech massacre was a sullen loner who alarmed professors and classmates with his twisted, violence-drenched creative writing and left a rambling note raging against women and rich kids. [Gee, we better start censoring 'violence-drenched' creative writings.]
U.S. Gun Laws Draw Heat After Massacre 18 Apr 2007 The Virginia Tech shootings sparked criticism of U.S. gun control laws around the world Tuesday. Editorials lashed out at the availability of weapons, and the leader of Australia – one of America’s closest allies – declared that America’s gun culture was costing lives. [Yeah, so is the Bush regime.] RESULT: DEMS AND REPUBS PASS HR 2640 – BUSH SIGNS INTO “LAW”
Articles of Impeachment to Be Filed On Cheney By Mary Ann Akers 17 Apr 2007 Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio)… declared in a letter sent to his Democratic House colleagues this morning that he plans to file articles of impeachment against Vice President [sic] Dick Cheney… Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach the president, vice president and “all civil Officers of the United States” for “treason, bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” Sources tell the Sleuth that in light of the mass killings at Virginia Tech Monday, Kucinich’s impeachment plans have been put on hold. There will be no action this week, they say.
Gunman ID’d as student; tests tie same gun to both attacks 17 Apr 2007 A Virginia Tech senior [Cho Seung-Hui] from South Korea killed at least 30 people locked inside a classroom building in the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history, the university and police said Tuesday. Ballistics tests also found that one of the guns used in that attack was also used in a shooting two hours earlier at a dorm that left two people dead, Virginia State Police said. Cho committed suicide after the attacks, and there was no indication Tuesday of any possible motive.
Anger mounts over response to massacre 17 Apr 2007 (Blacksburg, VA) Parents and students at the scene of the worst school shooting in US history on Monday criticised the university for waiting too long to alert people a killer may be on the loose.
Police Cite Person of Interest in Va. Tech Dorm Killing; Dead Gunman Yet to Be ID’d 16 Apr 2007 In a press conference tonight, Virginia Tech President Charles Steger gave a detailed timeline of the morning’s tragic events. He said a 9-1-1 call reporting a shooting at a dormitory was made at approximately 7:15 a.m. While police were trying to assess what they first believed was a domestic dispute, they received a second 9-1-1 call, nearly two and a half hours later, that reported shootings on the opposite side of campus. According to the Virginia Police Chief Wendell Flinchum, officials have not definitively linked the two shootings. Campus police have identified a person of interest who is not currently in police custody.
Gunman may have made 3 bomb threats to test ‘security response’ 16 Apr 2007 Authorities were investigating whether the gunman who killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history was a Chinese man who arrived in the United States last year on a student visa. The 24-year-old man arrived in San Francisco on United Airlines on Aug. 7 on a visa issued in Shanghai, the source said. Police believe three bomb threats on the campus last week may have been attempts by the man to test the campus’ security response, the source said. The exits to the buildings where the shootings occurred were chained by the shooter, the source said.
Eyewitness: ’40 or 50 shots’ –Massacre at Virginia Tech: 33 Confirmed Dead –Gunman’s Body Disfigured; Hard to Identify 16 Apr 2007 A tranquil college campus in Virginia became a killing field Monday morning. At least 33 people are dead in the worst mass shooting in modern American history. Police at Virginia Tech, in Blacksburg, Va., said that the shootings happened at a dormitory and then at a classroom on opposite sides of the university campus. Some students are questioning why administrators did not stop classes after the first shooting, and why it took more than two hours to inform the university community via email about the shootings.