642: With Every Turn of the Screw... (with Pete Quinones)

Today's show is a followup to the previous conversation with Dave Smith - a deeper level of exploration of the history of school, covering a longer period of time. (Edited Audio from Brett on Free Man Beyond the Wall)Pete's question: what you believe is the biggest conspiracy behind turning the schools into the indoctrination centers they are today?It's hard to pick just one.A STORY OF INCREASING LEVERAGE OF SCIENTIFIC MANAGERS (AND BOILED FROGS) 1840s-1930s- Mandatory public education in America began as part of a quest for a perfect society with the Puritans in Massachusetts who were seeking a religious utopia - Prussian system replaces the predictability of slavery in a labor force, and to standardize immigrants to that predictability - social and industrial harmony- The dramatic shift from family and community-based approach to an industrial, collectivist approach - there's no going back- This quest was soon taken up by Progressives and democratic socialists who were seeking a secular utopia"So a precedent is set, collectivism is ratcheted up at every stageand with every turn of the screw, the system becomes more accepted. It become harder and harder to imagine society without it and all that it does becomes...fine, and once it's fine it becomes invisible."1930s-1970s- Louis Alber, head of National Recovery Act New York 1933: “Russia and Germany are attempting to compel a new order by means typical of their nationalism – compulsion. The United States will do it by moral (per)suasion. Of course we expect some opposition, but the principles of the New Deal must be carried to the youth of the nation. We expect to accomplish by education what dictators in Europe are seeking to do by compulsion and force.”- Teacher training (1967-1974)run by a nexus private foundations, academia, corporations, think tanks and govt agencies, coordinated through the US Office of Education (three examples below)+ Designing Education for the Future, by Education Department sayseducation is a means to achieve economic and social goals of a national character+ Behavior Science Teacher Education Project (1968 Michigan State University) predicts "chemical experimentation" on children?+ Bloom's Taxonomy of Educational Objectives as "a tool to classify the ways that individuals are to act , think or feel as the result of some unit of instruction"1980s-Present- Outcomes-Based Education and the remediation of improper thoughts- Peg Luksik "Who Controls Our Children"- student profiling and data-sharing- The Dark Side Of Nationwide School Tests By B.K. Eakman: "if behavior-modification curricula can be brought into the classroom as legitimate learning material; if teachers, or even bona fide mental-health workers, can use the schools to "treat" youngsters for real or imagined psychological problems - then are schools really educational institutions or day-care clinics?"Pete's followup question (one hour later): how do you think education could work in a community of 10K like-minded libertarians/anarchists?I have seen such things. I explain.The downloadable version of The Ideas Into Action Summit is now available.Visit sspuniversity.com/ideasintoaction to learn more about the presenters, topics, bonus materials and encore presentation.Please Support School SucksWe do cool things! Thanks to your support.School Sucks is one of the longest running liberty-minded podcasts on the web, and the only one completely devoted to the issue of education (versus public school and college). Your support keeps the show going and growing, which keeps us at the top of the options for education podcasts and leads to new people discovering our work. Please help us continue to spread this important message further!Before you do anything, please bookmark and use this link for your Amazon shopping: Shop With UsOne-Time Donation Options:Paypal/Venmo;Donate DASHDonate ETHEREUMDonate LITECOINDonate BITCOINDonate BITCOIN CASHDonate ZCASHRecurring Options:NEW! SubscribeStarAccess our personal development bonus show, The Discomfort Zone, and lots of other irreverent and acerbic commentary you've never heard before.Support Us On PATREONHelp incentivize our production! Pledge $1 per content item and access dozens of Patron only audios and videos.Join the A/V ClubIf you're looking for more School Sucks content, the A/V Club option grants you access to a bonus content section with 400+ hours of exclusive audio and video. If you are a regular consumer of our media, please consider making a monthly commitment by selecting the best option for you...A/V Club - Basic Access - $8.00/MonthA/V Club - "Advanced" Access - $12.00/MonthSigma Sigma Pi - "Privileged" Access - $16.00/Month Crypto Addresses:DASH; XcZfPP6GZGVo9VKViNBVJZja5JVxZDB229ETHEREUM; 0x3c5504CE3401C028832173506fa30BD4db4b7D35LITECOIN; LKNp24f5wwvZ2QzeDbvxXgBxyVwi1yXnu2BITCOIN; 1KhwY836cfSGCK5aaGFv8Q7PHMgghFJn1UBITCOIN CASH 1AmqLVxjw3Lp9KT5ckfvsqfN2Hn3B1hCWSZCASH; t1by1ZGJ63LoLSjXy27ooJtipf4wMr7qbu4