Back in the post titled, And Moses said...Followers of Judaism to Iraq?, I’ve been engaged in an interesting conversation with a friendly commenter know as Ally. Ally is from England- Mom's a brit. Dad a Turkish man. Ally has an Aunt who is married to a Kurdish fellow and they reside together in Diyarbakir- Diyarbakir is ground zero for the PKK's campaign to destabilize Turkey. Ally offers us a unique perspective. One that will not be a surprise for anyone who has read here for any length of time. I've added some additional information alongside that from Ally and will relink related postsThanks Ally! A conversation that is worth sharing with all the readers:
- Ally May 13, 2016 at 5:52 AMThank you for your reply. Your writing is very interesting and I like reading your page. But how do you know all of this information??? Where are you from originally? My dad is from turkey so I know from him but you know a lot.
- PennyMay 13, 2016 at 10:31 AM"how do you know all of this information???"I read. Lots of lots of information from varied sourcesWhere are you from originally? I'm from Canada- Originally and presently
- PennyMay 13, 2016 at 10:32 AMAlly: if you wish to offer some input, a turkish perspective, from you Dad, I'd love to read itIt's up to you of course
- AllyMay 13, 2016 at 3:10 PMI am from England, UK. My mum is English and dad is Turkish. I have no problem with giving you his input. in fact, his sister is married to a Kurd and lives in Diyarbakir which is a kurdish city. What you wrote about the PKK is true. The Kurds in the southeast are not supporters of this group and many people have had their kids kidnapped and areas terrorized by this group. 90% of the trouble is caused by them. Although, many Kurds in Europe are supporting this group and are trying to play the 'victim' but the real Kurds who are living in the southeast are fleeing because of them. I just don't understand how the Kurds are being portrayed as these 'secular freedom fighters' when they are the most Islamic people in Turkey. A few weeks ago, there was going to be a gay pride march in diyarbakir like there is in Istanbul, Ankara, etc but the Kurds there didn't want it and were protesting against it so it was cancelled. They are all Muslim people and a lot of them do support Erdogan because he is Islamic and actually gives them more rights than most of the other previous Turkish nationalist, secular leaders. Many Kurds live in western Turkey too and they always laugh at my blonde hair when I go there...just hope that we can find peace between the people and not pieces. You can ask me for more information if you want :)Flashbacks: Don't conflate PKK terrorism with the Kurdish people- A "Kurdish Spring" *US Embassy Warns, AGAIN, of Possible Terror Attack in Turkey- Specifically Kurdish leader warns Turkey of PKK 'vengeance' *Obfuscation: PKK "Splinter" Group Claimed Responsibility for the Bombing in Ankara Also: Syrian Kurd self-immolates after son recruited by PYD/ PKK New: *PYD abducting under age girls in NE Syria
"The mothers of some of the abducted girls have since staged a three-day sit-in outside a local PYD recruitment office to protest the abductions, but to no avail, the sources said."
PennyMay 13, 2016 at 4:47 PMHi Ally:Thanks very much for sharing that :)I appreciate it a great deal. I too hope all people, always can find peace and not pieces. It the reason I write this blog. It's always been the only reason. "My mum is English and dad is Turkish"My mother is Canadian of british descent and my dad is from Italy (southern Italy) So I totally get the skin comment- Your dad has a sister who is married to a kurdish man in Diyarbakir (making sure I have this correct)- which indeed, from my understanding is a city with a large Kurdish population-"What you wrote about the PKK is true"I figured it was."The Kurds in the southeast are not supporters of this group and many people have had their kids kidnapped and areas terrorized by this group"I've written about this too. And am aware of the extortion and terrorism they face from the PKK"90% of the trouble is caused by them. Although, many Kurds in Europe are supporting this group and are trying to play the 'victim' but the real Kurds who are living in the southeast are fleeing because of them."I am all to aware of this.And did my best to raise awareness of this fact. I have many posts here explaining the situation and the feelings of the kurds in Turkey, most of them as you point out muslims- sunni muslims, most very devout. And many of them obviously voted for Erdogan and the AKP government."I just don't understand how the Kurds are being portrayed as these 'secular freedom fighters' when they are the most Islamic people in Turkey"This is the power of the media at work- Nonsensical stories about 'heroic kurds' litter multiple news sources and other's pass along the fabrications in social media as if they are truth- not a second thought is given to them- the words are not carefully read-Not only are they the most Islamic people they form the back bone of some of the worst and I means depraved, disgusting terror groups out thereLook at these names- then think about the vicious acts they have undertaken- ask yourself why the US and company will negotiate with these persons? https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Listedterroristorganisations/Pages/… Ansar al-Islam Army, Ansar al-Sunna, Army of Ansar al-Islam, Devotees of Islam, Followers of Islam in Kurdistan, Jaish Ansar al-Islam, Jaish Ansar al-Sunna, Jund al-Islam, Kurdish Taliban, Kurdistan Supporters of Islam, Partisans of Islam, Protectors of Islam, Protectors of the Sunni Faith, Soldiers of God, Soldiers of Islam, Supporters of Islam in Kurdistan.It is because they work with US/NATO/Israel and they've killed so many. They've displaced so many.They've destroyed so much. And they are the kurds that are terrorizing the regular kurds, the arabs, the christians--- it's terriblePennyMay 13, 2016 at 4:51 PMPt 2 response to Ally"They are all Muslim people and a lot of them do support Erdogan because he is Islamic and actually gives them more rights than most of the other previous Turkish nationalist, secular leaders"He did indeed give them quite a bit and he had intended to give them more- but there was bigger plans a foothttp://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/01/the-ypg-pkk-connection…"Before the collapse of the peace process, leaks about the state of the peace talks suggested that Öcalan appeared willing to support a proposal backed by Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party’s (AKP) to transition to a presidential system in exchange for some semblance of democratic autonomy. The move would have helped resolve the issue peacefully by addressing key Kurdish demands (beyond those espoused by the PKK) for greater political and cultural autonomy. The AKP supported the premise of this potential compromise, although many details needed to be worked out before implementation""You can ask me for more information if you want :)"Thank you, I will keep that in mind :)I wouldn't know where to begin?But, something I would appreciate would be if I could share your comment in a posting here?If there is something more that you think my readers need to know, please include it.If you can add more information that would help us understand the ongoing situation- please help usI would love it! :)Thanks so muchAllyMay 13, 2016 at 7:23 PMYou can share. You are right - many normal Kurds have had their lives ruined. They claim to be ecological but are destroying everything. Many of the pics of them that are circulating around on facebook are actually pics from the Syrian Army which includes many women as well. They are tossing them around, saying its their 'Lions of Rojava' Here is a video of 50K Kurds in Diyarbakir cheering for Mohammad and an Islamic State on 17th April. The event was organised by Hezbollah which is a Kurdish Islamist group in Turkey (not to be confused with the Lebanese Hezbollah). Ask me what you want. I am also happy to talk about events in Europe. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THr2bDvWIOADo you think that Syria, Iran and Turkey can defeat the Kurds or is it too late?ReplyLink for video Event organized by Kurdish Hezbollah a Kurdish Islamsit group in Turkey Flashback: The PKK’s Urban Warfare Tactics My thoughts: I find Ally's comment above very interesting. I've written about the abuse the PKK and it's other alphabet subsidiaries have heaped on ordinary kurds.Interesting the kurdish militias are circulating pictures of Syrian Arab Army and claiming them as their own- Ally left a link for a vidoe of Islamist Kurds cheering for an Islamic State- so they are definitely NOT a secular bunch- as I've stated repeatedly here at the blog. And two Hezbollahs! Hezbollah the Kurdish Islamist group? That's good to know!AllyMay 14, 2016 at 5:13 AM
Also, the land that they want is historically Assyrian. Southeastern Turkey today is 95% Kurdish. Diyarbakir, Gaziantep, Mardin are all Kurdish cities. My dad's sister is one of a few Turks that live in Diyarbakir which is the biggest Kurdish city. But 100 years ago, this area was Assyrian. In 1915, the Ottoman Turks had decided to slaughter them and killed more than 200,000. During this time, the demographics of the area started to change as the Kurds were coming over from Persia as mercenaries to help with the genocide. The Ottomans would give the Kurds Assyrian land if they helped slaughter them. The Kurds were allies of the Ottomans as they are also Sunnis and so there were a few that came to settle in s/e Turkey, northern Iraq and Northern Syria before 1915, but 90% of them only arrived after. So their ancestry in those areas only goes back 500 years when Assyrians, Arabs and others have been living there for thousands of years. In fact, many of the Kurds in Syria only arrived after 1925 after the failed Islamic Sheikh Said rebellion in Kemalist Turkey which the Kurds still commemorate today. You can read:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Said_rebellion
Ally's link: 1925 Sheik Said Rebellion: Sheikh Said Rebellion (Kurdish:Serhildana Şêx Seîdê Pîran, Turkish: Şeyh Said İsyanı, contemporary name: Genç Hâdisesi means "Genç Incident") was a rebellion to revive the Islamic Caliphate System and used elements of Kurdish nationalism to recruit...
My thoughts: That Ally said, to me, "the land the Kurds are after is historically Assyrian" just blew my away! It was as if Ally handed me a gift. That the Kurds aided the Ottoman Turks as mass killers was written about here at the blog. The Kurds aided the Ottoman in ethnically cleansing the land of Assyrians- The Kurdish militias are playing the same role, again. Mercenaries. They are displacing their own people for an expanded Israel, this time. Sure some kurds will remain, but, a great many of them have left- Not because of Erdogan. Because of their own bretheren.Flashbacks: *PKK Occupy 3 Assyrian Iraqi Villages- Turks to Mosul and more" When asked by an employee of the school why the PKK is occupying the village, a PKK fighter said "you [Assyrians] have the opportunity to leave the country, why are you staying here?"*Ramadi to Palmyra: KurdISHIS/Israeli collusion- Stealing Assyrian history" The Kurds, and I have covered this previously, covet Assyrian history. To the point that they are attempting to make it their own. Stealing Assyrian history in order to make a history for themselves, pushing the meme of a people that deserve a country, though, they have always been nomadic and have from all my reading never had a country" *Kurds Fully Participate in Generational Assyrian/ Armenian Christian Genocides
