This is a comment that a Swede left on my video about the horror of being gay in Sweden’s muslims ghettos. I thought it was worth posting because it’s well-written and nuanced, with insight that I rarely see in the debate about immigration and regressive cultural values.
Here it goes.
“Most of the people commenting this video are living outside of these ghettos. People haven’t lived where radical Islam is the norm. Where riots have occurred. Where you can’t see a lot of the people’s faces. Another thing I find funny is that always on the news and in comments sections they think the cars that burn are selected by random. They’re not. They’re messages.
I live in one of the so called ghettos. It is a challenge but I am having it easy because I am a very big dude and I’m considered pretty normal. I thought I’d just show you some perspective from someone actually living in one of the “danger zones”.
First of all there are sub zones within the media’s perspective of the danger zones. In Biskopsgården there are places that clearly is outright dangerous to even be in while some are quite nice with a view over the danger zone.
The funny thing is that Biskopsgården is really beautifully located with a lake and football fields. It is really beautiful. We also have to make it clear to whom it is a danger zone. The entire area in Biskopsgården is a danger zone to the police and LGBT people but to most normal males you won’t really notice much if you aren’t a very frightened person like most Sweden Democrats that would shit themselves if a man with a turban walked on the sidewalk with them. I will make a danger list at the end of this post for y’all really scared people. If you’re like that then you’d have a heart attack looking at the danger zone.
I live in the part with the view of the local danger zone and there are quite a lot of shady people in the danger zone. With the local danger zone I mean it would even be risky for me to walk in there without a translator because drugs build up a certain parameter in that area and ask the wrong questions and you are really playing with fire. You don’t even have to try to find them. They are obvious and have a special way they move among people. You also see all the drug delivery vehicles (moped and such) and they don’t even try to hide the scent of cannabis.
Many of my friends are actually immigrants because almost everyone here is. My friends are from different places and the most liberal of them are from richer families from Iran and the most radical have rich family roots in Saudi Arabia and even he thinks that his culture’s view on women is a disgrace to all human beings and that they have too much influence on the Muslim community that is harming the faith. True, they cannot represent all the immigrants from Iran and Saudi Arabia but I’m just saying they are pretty sane Muslims.
When we walk around they usually translate to me what is going on because quite frankly Swedish is not even a language within close proximity of the danger zone. My friends know Persian, Arabic, German and Swedish so I get a whole new perspective of what’s going on when they translate to me in German because no other Muslims in the area know German so they don’t expect anything. We use German just to be sure. The funny thing is though that just like some Swedes look funny upon people talking Arabic on the tram when they don’t understand we get a lot of funny looks and sometimes even comments in Arabic when we are using German.
The main problem here is how much influence this danger zone gets on the surroundings. Muslims further away from the danger zone would be considered a lot more normal while the closer you get to the epicenter you have ISIS within those walls. I’m not even kidding, ISIS is right there and most of us could point them out and according to rumors SÄPO do have the building under supervision. To be able to talk you’d have to grow the biggest balls ever seen and be willing to move as soon as you spill it out.
The problem is that the amount of fear that the epicenter emits makes a lot of the Muslims around feel threatened and like they’re bad Muslims. One of my friend’s mother who lives closer to the epicenter has told me that she is more scared in her home in Sweden than she ever was in Iran, because in Iran she would at least live with her kind of Muslims and the Swedish immigration board don’t seem to understand the difference.
One of her relatives had to live with people that had physically abused a woman in Iran who was her friend, and she tried to bring up that she feared for her life and that the men looked at her as if she was prey. Now they shared the same camp and she was scared to death while she was waiting to gain access to the Swedish system.
Anyway, my friend’s mother has to live in fear due to her being a woman and not having much of an education. We don’t have anything to offer these women in Sweden and hence they become even more victimized and she told me that many of her friends rely on their men to bring home income, which makes the radical ideas keep on prospering because women don’t have a voice and say if they want to survive. There are simply no homes for either Swedes or immigrants who don’t feel safe in their own home so my friend’s mom is going to live her entire life in fear and die in fear if she don’t find the money to move back to Iran. Now if that isn’t the most heartbreaking thing you’ve heard in a long time you have a pretty shitty life my friend.
She says that it is an unfair amount of pressure on her to live right by the Quran while a lot of men can get away with a lot of things you shouldn’t do according to the more radical in the bunch. She is under more pressure to live right than she ever was in Iran. She has wanted to become a feminist and join a union and that was something she was looking forward to in Sweden but she wouldn’t feel safe doing that even though such a union is made for people to feel safe.
You can even see that even though Swedes can’t say that females in this area are actually one of the entire WORLDS most oppressed women that a lot of agencies understand that they have to do something. Almost everywhere you see signs of phone numbers to female support groups and hotlines for domestic abuse. On buses, bus stops, road signs etc. I have even taken a picture of a sign from Amnesty right in that neighborhood addressing the oppression of women. Dude, a sign from Amnesty in Sweden. So it is realized in some sense but we aren’t doing enough and taking proper responsibility since they still live in fear.
The closer I get to the epicenter the more you will hear of the topic that the angry foreigner is talking about. It doesn’t seem to be linked to a gender so at least there’s some equality. Okay, I really shouldn’t joke about that but there’s no difference from what I have heard if a man is a homosexual or a woman but I could be wrong. However, both seem to lose their human rights.
The further away you get from the epicenter the more most Muslims act like most Swedes. We Swedes kinda say we accept homosexuality but deep down a lot of people outside of the cities would still question it behind your back. However, in the epicenter it is not uncommon to hear both women and men talk about how Allah will punish the homosexuals. The radicals don’t even hide it because they are in fact PROUD of that opinion. They see themselves as the perfect Muslims. They say it clear in the open because they don’t fear anything and most people don’t even speak Swedish. If an outsider come into the area you have to have a translator to be able to hear what they’re saying right there clear in the open.
They even discuss daughters that don’t bleed during their wedding night and how ashamed families should be if that happens. I once heard that they “knew a guy who could surgically make their daughters bleed on the weeing night to uphold the family’s honor”. I mean these are to most normal people considered really radical thoughts but they seriously talk about it on a bench by the playground while their kids are on the swings 10 feet away.
The closer to the male teenagers you get the more they feel like they are messengers of Allah and they have the right to according to my friend’s translation “teach homosexuals to cure themselves and save those who aren’t infected”. A lot of radical women also take pride in a radical man so sadly the behavior is in some sense encouraged by the radicals in this wheel of a fucked up life.
It really is a different world near the epicenter. You can’t bring a camera or pretend you are showing something, doing a documentary or being suspicious because then they will show that you are not welcome. By show I mean they will break your shit. Me and my friends usually pretend we are passing through to get a pizza or something and that works most of the time. The most common thing though is that most people that we’d consider normal live in fear no matter the religion if you are close to the epicenter.
The police is increasing their presence but the problem is that near the epicenter they don’t believe in the police. Most don’t even believe in each other and are racing to be the best Muslims. The criminals dealing in drugs believe they are invincible and the victims and witnesses don’t believe in the police to protect them if they were to speak up.
Near the epicenter everything is ruled by fear and Allah happens to be a quite common tool to enforce their laws. A lot of times you hear talk about “being a proper Muslim”. That seems to be very important. It is like this race to be the best Muslims there ever was. So in some sense radicals gain ground by saying that they know the path of becoming the best Muslim and many in the younger generations look upon them with awe. It’s insane and the fact that this is so clear in the open and that homophobic ideals is talked about as common as the weather is crazy.
I’ve seen multiple newspapers in Sweden mention this now even before the angry foreigner did but to me and us living here it’s old news. It might be news for y’all living outside of these areas but ever since I moved to Gothenburg homophobia has always been there in Biskopsgården.
So when news come that teenagers are acting upon these things they have heard their entire life even by the playground it’s not a surprise. In fact I’m surprised we haven’t seen an attack on the pride festival yet. However, we also have to be realistic here. It’s not thousands that are throwing rocks, sending messages by burning cars and beating women. It’s a small percent but that doens’t make it any more right or acceptable but those actually acting the radical ideas out are very few. A lot more people share many of these radical ideas but they don’t physically act on them and break the law.
Even though the news mention the entire area of Biskopsgården it’s not as bad in the edges as the epicenter that I’ve explained here. It is livable for a male. When cars have been burning it is not like I fear for my life because even though it looks crazy on the news it’s a message and if the police show up the anger is only directed at the police due to the teenagers not believing in the police.
I have never seen a fat radicalized middle-aged Muslim male throw rocks at the police in Sweden. It is the radicalized teenagers and those engaged in criminal activity that believe they can carry out these acts. That’s the one time I see the radical Muslims and criminals join forces. To throw rocks at the police. #ComingTogether
I’d be afraid if I was (I put them in order as well to give you an idea how afraid you should be, feel free to combine them how you please but remember to double the fear for you first addition and triple for you second and so on):
1. A woman
2. A homosexual/Transexual
3. A feminist
4. A parent
5. A police
6. A nurse
7. A teacher
8. An Imam
9. A politician
10. A racist
Imagine being a homosexual woman with a kid being a police officer by day and an Imam by night. No, I’m just kidding. I know that’s ridiculous. That would never exist.
However do notice that by just being male you are a lot safer than our poor females that we contentiously let down in these areas. So even though you are scared from what you see on the news and you write an angry comment, you are blessed compared to the real oppressed in this country.”
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