non contradiction

UPDATE:

Note for the debate: YouTube changed the ingestion settings live stream page since we tested it two days ago. Matt was cool about it and we are rescheduling for week of 19th. No one was running, YT has redone steaming page. You can’t schedule a live event and have it stream the way it used to since hangouts is gone, you have to use “live stream now.” My mistake

Stream or download audio half here.
Title: The Deep End episode 022: Jay Dyer | Esoteric Hollywood (Part 1 of 2). Part 2 will also be available when it’s finished in editing for JaysAnalysis Subscribers. 
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Date Filmed: 04.12.2017 | Published: 05.06.2017
Featuring: Jay Dyer, Brett Veinotte, Kevin Cole, Dylan LeFebvre